Talk:Carl Reinecke

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Altona as separate town in Denmark

I am objecting to what someone wrote (and I have since hidden) in Reinecke's entry that "Oft-copied biographic information on him confuses this locale with the Danish town of Altona, but the two are completely different." (my emphasis, as this is my objection specifically)

A brief search on Wikipedia shows a list of Altona's; none in Denmark. Rather, the Altona in Germany near Hamburg was at one time considered a part of Denmark. One explanation I found (with spelling, emphasis, and punctuation added by me):

Since 1640 the town of Altona belonged to Denmark, and because Schleswig and Holstein were Danish duchies, the border between Germany and Denmark was drawn as far south as right outside Hamburg. Indeed Altona was a Danish competitor to Hamburg for its rich trade with easy access to the North Sea. After the war in 1864 Denmark lost Schleswig and Holstein and with them the important city of Altona. [1]

Note that Reinecke was born in 1824, when Altona was quite likely still considered (somewhat?) "Danish". --SidP 22:45, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Altona was a city of the Kingdom of Denmark and of the Duchy of Holstein. The Duchy of Holstein was part of the German Confederation until 1864 and before of the Holy Roman Empire. The King of Denmark and Prince-elector of the Holy Roman Empire was also Duke of Schleswig and Holstein. Today Altona is a suburb of Hamburg. So Reinecke was a Danish subject from birth. I know this is complicated. Quite a lot of people in the US would categorize him as an Danish pianist or composer. But he was simply a subject of the kingdom of Denmark. It would be interesting if he was able to speak Danish. Most probably he spoke German with his king. Gerhard51 21:02, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not only was he a subject of the kingdom of Denmark, his travels mark him as a Dane as well. His concert tour in 1843 was in Denmark and Sweden. After his stay in Leipzig he gave a concert tour in North Germany (former Denmark?) and Denmark. He was appointed court pianist in Copenhagen by his king in 1846. All of this place him firmly as a Danish subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.214.22.149 (talk) 15:15, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

Yes -- please do! Whoever created Karl Reinecke ought to have done a search on "Reinecke" before creating their own page. Grover cleveland 20:57, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not even a search- just checking one of the categories; that there was already a Reinecke under R (or if we'd forgotten the sort key, under C, at worst) in the birth, death or German composers categories should have been a hint. As it is, I see entries in categories much too similar to each other in categories all the time, without even actually looking; the problem is "false positives" of course... Schissel | Sound the Note! 18:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality

Carl Reinecke was a German composer, he wasn't Danish. Thomas Muething

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